Snark Weighs In

Ellen Wheeler Speaks About Production Changes

posted Tuesday, 16 October 2007

Updating last night's story, the New York Post has quotes today from GL Executive Producer Ellen Wheeler about the changes.

"It's not going to look anything like what it looks like now," Wheeler says of the show.  Wheeler says the idea of the show came from the fans...and a study commissioned by Proctor & Gamble.  I wonder which had more weight?

"[The fans] said . . . the show didn't feel real," says Wheeler. "I wanted to make these very real stories and very real characters feel as much like it was really happening as I possibly could.

"When I watch 'The Hills,' 'ER,' 'Grey's Anatomy' or even 'Desperate Housewives,' those shows feel real to me."

Oy, where to start? 

Do I start with Wheeler using the word "real" more often in two paragraphs than R. Kelly does in the entire length of "Real Talk?"

When the fans say that the show didn't feel real, were they really just talking about the production values or the entire show?  If they could choose one aspect of the show to make more real, which would they choose, I wonder?

Some fans have been comparing this move to the way British soaps film--on backlots with real outdoor sets, and sometimes, in real houses.  I would not be against that.  But hearing Wheeler bring up The Hills, ER, and Desperate Housewives as examples just tells me that they don't have a clue beyond "make it like primetime!" which is a mantra that has been hurting the soaps anyway.

This is not a necessary storytelling move.  It could, if done well, enhance the shows.  If this were under different circumstances--say, being done by a soap that had healthy ratings and genuinely wanted to experiment with the form--I would be less apprehensive.  But it's being mentioned in the same breath as cost-cutting and cancellation talk.  And Wheeler's "let's just name some prime-time shows" approach reeks of desperation.

It doesn't help that every time soaps have switched out of the traditional camera mode--The City, the first few months of Sunset Beach, All My Children, ATWT's recent location shoots--the results have been unimpressive, and not the slightest bit real feeling.  For that sense of immediacy, I don't know that it gets any more real than good old videotape.

Wheeler ends the article by saying:

"If I see someone planting flowers, I want to know what kind of flowers they are, if [someone] is driving a car, I want to know what kind.  It will allow for a deeper understanding of who these people are."

Yes, I've often wondered about this.  When Olivia hits people with her car, I want to know what she was driving.  When Billy gets stinkin drunk, I want to know what he's having.  And when Noah's father on ATWT breaks out his gun, I want to know who made it.  Perhaps there'll be further opportunities for product placement to add to that sense of reality.  It worked for My Network TV.

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1. Fabobug left...
Tuesday, 16 October 2007 11:06 pm

Could someone PLEASE make Ellen Wheeler watch Ryan's Hope reruns on Soapnet? Those cheap sets looked so fragile and their cityscape backdrops were positively hilarious. BUT the show still feels more real 30 years later than anything out there now. Why? It's the writing, stupid !!

I give Ellen Wheeler "A" for spirit, but making GL look more like an ABC primetime drama ain't gonna do it. Writing GL like an ABC primetime drama? Maybe.


2. Rashad Khan left...
Tuesday, 16 October 2007 11:25 pm

So, let me get this straight: we're taking a 70-year-old institution and making it compatible with a flash-in-the-pan, so-called reality show from MTV, because it feels more real? WHAT!? That's it. I'm done. Done with this stinking show, done with this stinking network, done with the whole stinking business. Daytime can go to hell for all I care. Just cancel the godforsaken shows, put on cheapo talk- and judge shows, and leave us all the hell alone. (Snark, in case I haven't made myself clear enough, this is the last time you'll be hearing fro me. Not b/c of you, of course, I just need to get away from anything and everything that has to do w/ soap opera.)


3. WoSTBrian left...
Tuesday, 16 October 2007 11:48 pm

Why, Rashad... I can't believe your stance on this!! I can't believe you would turn your back on...

Umm, nevermind. >>sheepish grin<<


4. LMJ left...
Sunday, 28 October 2007 5:45 pm

I found this on TV Squad blog:

I think I just threw up a little bit in my mouth.

If you watch Guiding Light, take note of this. The show is going to change in early 2008, according to the show's producers. Say goodbye to the ordinary camera locations and the sets. The show is going for a more cinema verite'/MTV-style show, with hand-held cameras and edgier editing. They want the show to have the look of a reality show. Or something. Ugh.

Supposedly the show got the idea after seeing the results of a one-year study that showed that fans didn't think the show felt "real." Maybe because it's a soap opera? Producer Ellen Wheeler says "When I watch ER, Grey's Anatomy, or even Desperate Housewives, those shows feel real to me."

Um...OK. I can't speak about Grey's, but since when is an over the top soap like Housewives "real?" I'd also like to point out that none of these shows are filmed with hand-held cameras. Also, they're weekly shows. A daily, 70 year-old soap opera that is suddenly goes to hand-held cameras and quick editing? Gah.

I understand that daytime dramas have been falling in the ratings a lot in the last 5-10 years, and might even go the way of the daytime game show. But I really don't see this as saving them. I predict that this will either kill the show for good, or if it does survive, they'll give it up after a year-long experiment.

I watched the show every single day from the early '80s to the mid-'90s or so. I'm probably not the demographic they're shooting for and since I'm no longer a regular viewer I probably shouldn't care, but it's hard to see something that has lasted so long be changed this drastically.

(Note: can someone explain to me what Wheeler is talking about when she talks about viewers wanting to know what kind of flowers characters on the show are planting and what kind of car they are driving?)

Note: I was watching ATWT and it seems that have implemented the digital camera method already on the show, and although it was jarring at first, it wasn't all that bad.